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« Antwoord #15 Gepost op: Oktober 08, 2016, 05:37:25 »

Een CN auto is ook niet hoogwaardige techniek hoor.

Dat heb ik toch nooit beweerd?
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« Antwoord #16 Gepost op: Oktober 10, 2016, 10:53:04 »

Een CN auto is ook niet hoogwaardige techniek hoor.

Oke en de Ginetta G57 LMP is dat hoogwaardige techniek?

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/ginetta/2016-ginetta-g57-prototype-racer-ar171993.html#main
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« Antwoord #17 Gepost op: Oktober 21, 2016, 09:46:27 »

24H PROTO SERIES | CREVENTIC responds to ACO clarification

GENNEP (October 7, 2016) – A few weeks ago, Dutch agency CREVENTIC announced its plans for a series of endurance races for prototypes from 2017, with a triple-header of three-hour races at Dubai Autodrome in January on the support bill of the Hankook 24H DUBAI as a trial event. Teams currently running prototypes in competition were first contacted with further information about CREVENTIC’s plans during the ELMS round at Spa-Francorchamps (Sept. 23-25). Many positive reactions were received. During that weekend, the first articles about the proposed series also were published in the press.

“For a long time, teams owning and running prototypes have been asking us for permission to take part in our events with their cars, but so far, we have always kept our races exclusively open for GTs and touring cars”, CREVENTIC’s Ivo Breukers explains. “The speed and weight difference were the reason for us to say ‘no’ to prototypes running together with other cars in our events, but then, teams kept asking us whether why couldn’t organise races for prototypes as well. As a result, we talked with many prototype manufacturers such as Wolf, Ginetta, Radical and Onroak, and it became apparent that some of the customers of these manufacturers would be interested in endurance races organised by us. This prompted us to go ahead with the plans for our series and for a trial event in Dubai, news that was met with great enthusiasm in the Spa paddock, where we spoke with all the prototype teams who expressed their interest in taking part. Other teams were approached in different ways. All the teams were enthusiastic, not only outfits running LMP3 cars, but also teams with Group CN cars, Radicals and similar machinery.”

Last week, CREVENTIC received an e-mail from the Automobile Club de l’Ouest with the announcement that a letter via registered mail would follow. In the mean time, the ACO sent a statement to various media outlets, which is based on false information and contains many errors. Therefore CREVENTIC would like to respond to this statement from ACO. Below, quotes in italics are from the ACO statement, followed by CREVENTIC’s response in bold.

 ___________ ACO statement and CREVENTIC’s response _______
 
“Following the announcement and various statements made by the Dutch company CREVENTIC, about the creation of the 24H Proto Series, the Automobile Club de l’Ouest (ACO) wishes to make the following clarification:
“The ACO intends to respond and denies having agreed with CREVENTIC on the organization of a racing series in 2017 called “24 Proto Series”, which is open to LMP3.“

CREVENTIC never claimed that it has an agreement with ACO. CREVENTIC does not need approval from ACO to organize the “24h Proto Series”

 “The ACO denies having granted to CREVENTIC the LMP3 brand, as well as LMP3 technical regulations, which are its exclusive property”.

CREVENTIC never declared that ACO granted any right to use the LMP3 band or any ACO regulations. CREVENTIC or any party does not require the permission of ACO to organize a racing event that welcomes LMP3 type cars.
 
“Similarly, the use of the list of LMP3 competitors entered in ELMS, as that of future events organized by the Dutch company, was made without the knowledge and against the will of the ACO.

CREVENTIC is not obliged, nor has it agreed with ACO, to share its provisional entry list with ACO. All the teams on the provisional entry list expressed their interest for the event during a personal meeting and/or have registered through our site http://www.24hprotoseries.com
 
“On this point, as on the above, the ACO strongly denies and reserves to defend its rights.”
The ACO then intend to defend their intellectual property within the LMP3 ‘brand’ and its associated regulations from other racing organisations who intend to promote races and series without prior discussion with them.”

CREVENTIC has tried to clarify this matter with ACO on a personal level in order to prevent any legal dispute with ACO. Unfortunately, ACO has decided to take legal steps against CREVENTIC and demands that it renounces from the organisation of the 24H PROTO SERIES and refrains from using the LMP3 name. CREVENTIC will defend its position and at the same time try to reach an amicable solution with ACO.

The proposed 24H PROTO SERIES is open for various prototypes such as Group CN cars, prototype cars from one-make series such as the Radical Cup and, also but by no means exclusively, prototype cars built by various manufacturers and commonly known as LMP3 cars. These are currently racing in the European Le Mans Series, for which the ACO is the promoter, but also in series like the VdeV Endurance Series, Supercar Challenge, previously in the French GT championship and various club-level series in Europe and the United States.

CREVENTIC’s Ivo Breukers explains: “A series with twelve-hour races for prototypes does not yet exist and we are convinced that it meets a demand that can currently be identified in the motorsport world. Many of the teams we have spoken to make it clear that they are happy to see more races for prototype cars coming up, as it is good for their business model, too. We provide a lot of mileage at an attractive rate.”

“In a few weeks CREVENTIC will announce the circuits on which the rounds of the  24H PROTO SERIES will take place. We are convinced that this initiative will help to strengthen the position of prototype racing in Europe and provide additional opportunities for teams and drivers to race these cars and thus enhance the team’s business model. We already know of teams now running GT cars who are seriously interested in running prototypes as well and have asked for quotations from prototype manufacturers. This could also add to the popularity and potential participants for other series as well, from which the sport in general, teams, organisers and fans will benefit.

 “In general,” Breukers says, “CREVENTIC has a passion for endurance racing and it is our aim to share this passion with as many people as possible. Manufacturers, teams, drivers and fans are happy with our initiatives and this latest one only helps to strengthen the prototype racing scene, rather than doing any harm to it. We remain a simple, small and open-minded organisation and our door is always open for any parties willing to co-operate with us, and it goes without saying that that includes the ACO.”

3x3H DUBAI as a trial event

In January, 2017, CREVENTIC is organising a triple-header of three-hour races for prototypes at Dubai Autodrome on the support bill of the Hankook 24H DUBAI. This can be considered as a trial event for the planned 24H PROTO SERIES. The number of teams that have already registered to participate in this event is rapidly increasing. Many drivers are already in Dubai for the Hankook 24H DUBAI anyway, so they are considering this prototype event as an ideal opportunity to get some additional track time whilst also getting familiar with prototype racing.

CREVENTIC is offering a very competitively priced package for participation in this race: the total entry fee for the three three-hour races is 10,000 Euros, including standard transport of race car and equipment from Europe to Dubai Autodrome and back, all the logistics including customs and handling in Dubai, free practice, qualifying, the three races and all the fuel that is needed for the event. Teams with a minimum of two and a maximum of three drivers, with a maximum of one professional driver (gold or higher), are admitted. Every race will include two mandatory pit stops with driver change. If required, air transport can be arranged as well. Further information can be found on the website at www.24h protoseries.com. Here, the full calendar for 2017, with three or four twelve-hour races at renowned and attractive circuits in Europe, will be published in due course.

http://www.24hseries.com/series/latest-news/24h-proto-series--creventic-responds-to-aco-clarification
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« Antwoord #18 Gepost op: Oktober 21, 2016, 10:00:44 »

Volop interesse 3x3H Dubai, nadere details 24H Proto Series bekend, seizoensstart op Magny-Cours

Na de eerste aankondiging afgelopen maand is er bij het Nederlandse bureau Creventic hard gewerkt aan de voorbereidingen van de 3x3H Dubai, de drie lange-afstandsraces voor prototypes op 10 en 11 januari 2017 op Dubai Autodrome, alsmede aan de 24H Proto Series, het derde kampioenschap met lange-afstandsraces naast de succesvolle 24H Series en TCE Series powered by Hankook. Datum en plaats voor de seizoensstart van de 24H PROTO SERIES staan nu vast: het eerste evenement voor prototypes vindt als twaalfuursrace tijdens het weekeinde van 22 en 23 april 2017 op het Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours in Frankrijk plaats.

"Ons doel is een serie met drie tot vier twaalfuursraces op aantrekkelijke circuits", zegt Ole Dörlemann van Creventic. "Besprekingen met andere circuits zijn nog gaande. We spreken momenteel met de directie van circuits als het Circuit de Barcelona Catalunya en het Circuito de Navarra in Spanje, Circuit Paul Ricard in Frankrijk en de Red Bull Ring in Oostenrijk. We verwachten deze onderhandelingen snel af te sluiten, waarna we onze volledige kalender bekend kunnen maken. Tegelijkertijd zijn we zeer verheugd over de reacties die we krijgen op onze race in Dubai en op de nieuwe serie."

De 3x3H DUBAI is een officieel support-evenement van de Hankook 24H DUBAI en vindt plaats in de week voor de seizoensstart van de 24H SERIES powered by Hankook. "De combinatie van beide evenementen biedt vele mogelijkheden", legt Ole Dörlemann uit. "Er zijn zo'n 400 rijders in Dubai die aan de Hankook 24H DUBAI deelnemen. Zij kunnen profiteren van de mogelijkheid, ervaring met een prototype op te doen, terwijl ze tegelijkertijd extra rijtijd op de baan krijgen. Anderzijds kunnen teams, die prototypes inzetten, gemakkelijker potentiële rijders voor de race vinden. Wij zullen er alles aan doen om teams en rijders met elkaar in contact te brengen."

Aantrekkelijk tarief inschrijfgeld inclusief transport, handling en brandstof
Om ervoor te zorgen dat de 3x3H DUBAI een succes wordt, biedt CREVENTIC een aantrekkelijk geprijsd pakket aan dat het inschrijfgeld, transport van raceauto en materiaal van Rotterdam naar Dubai Autodrome en terug, de handling en logistiek alsmede alle brandstof tijdens het evenement omvat. De prijs van dit pakket bedraagt € 10.000 per auto. Het schip vertrekt op 27 november vanuit Rotterdam, de terugkeer van de containers volgt zo'n vier tot vijf weken na het evenement. Desgewenst kan ook worden voorzien in transport per luchtvracht. Tot dusver hebben 20 teams uit negen verschillende landen, met in totaal 30 auto's, hun namen op de voorlopige inschrijflijst laten vermelden. Daaronder bevinden zich tal van bekende teams. Ook bij de ingeschreven auto's is er volop variatie met prototypes van Tatuus, Wolf, Radical, Norma, Ligier, Adess en Ginetta.

Met de bevestiging van de datum en de locatie voor de seizoensstart neemt ook de door Creventic geplande 24H PROTO SERIES meer vorm aan. "Met veel plezier hebben we kennis genomen van uw nieuwe serie lange-afstandsraces voor sport-prototypes", en "het was een plezierige verrassing, te zien dat u een prototype-categorie uitschrijft, en we zijn er graag bij", waren slechts twee van de reacties die Creventic na de eerste aankondiging ontving. Overige data en locaties worden binnen afzienbare tijd bekendgemaakt. Creventic streeft naar een inschrijfgeld van € 7.500 voor de twaalf-uursraces plus € 2.500 voor brandstof. Hankook is de officiële bandenleverancier. "We zijn zeer tevreden over de samenwerking met Creventic in de afgelopen jaren en we zijn verheugd over deze uitbreiding", zegt Manfred Sandbichler, Director Motorsport van Hankook Tire Europe.

Terwijl het definitieve reglement ook binnenkort zal worden gepubliceerd, is al besloten dat er maximaal één rijder met platina- of goud-status per auto zal worden toegelaten. Voor rijders met zilver- of brons-status geldt er geen maximum. De toegelaten klassen zijn productie-sportwagens zoals Group CN-auto's, Ginetta G57's en Radicals, alsmede sportprototypes als P3 en speciale prototypes. "We hopen tevens op een vriendschappelijke overeenkomst met de ACO met betrekking tot de P3-auto's", zegt Ole Dörlemann. "Er is inmiddels telefonisch contact geweest met de ACO en we proberen een datum te vinden voor overleg om de zaken nader te bespreken. We streven ernaar dat beide organisaties een manier vinden om samen te werken, waarvan ze beide profiteren." Nadere informatie over de 24H PROTO SERIES is te vinden via www.24hprotoseries.com.

http://autosport.nl/klasse/nieuws/28160/volop-interesse-3x3h-dubai-nadere-details-24h-proto-series-bekend-seizoensstart-op-magny-cours
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« Antwoord #19 Gepost op: Oktober 21, 2016, 10:59:20 »

Even een vraag is de Aquila CR1 nu een GT of een Prototype?

info.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquila_Racing_Cars.

http://www.aquilaracingcars.com/cr1-sports-gt/

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« Antwoord #20 Gepost op: November 18, 2016, 11:45:08 »

Lijst van prototypes die tot nu toe qa specificatie klassen door creventic wordt toegestaan en staat er een bepaald type prototype niet op de lijst wat aan een van de specificatie klassen voldoet kan men dat per mail doorgeven. info@creventic.com

http://www.24hprotoseries.com/uploads/files/Class%20Overview/Class_overviewEligible_cars_24H%20PROTO%20SERIES_2017_version_12%20November%202017.pdf
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« Antwoord #21 Gepost op: December 03, 2016, 11:56:18 »

24H PROTO SERIES | Renault R.S.01 eligible

Gennep (14 November 2016) With great surprise CREVENTIC observed that the Renault Sport Trophy will not continue in the future. The Renault R.S. 01 is already eligible in the 24H SERIES with a GT3-update kit. CREVENTIC is pleased to inform all teams that the Renault R.S. 01 in the Renault Sport configuration is fully eligible for the 24H PROTO SERIES. First possible entry for these cars is the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI (10-11 January 2017).

The Renault R.S. 01 in the Renault Sport Trophy configuration is eligible in the PX-class of the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI. CREVENTIC would like to inform all teams that a last-minute registration for the Prototype race in Dubai is still possible. "The Renault R.S. 01 in the Renault Sport Trophy configuration perfectly fits the philosphy and performance of the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI. We believe it can be a great addition to the prototype grid" says Ole Dörlemann on behalf of CREVENTIC, "Since the change between the Renault Sport Trophy and a GT3 set-up can be performed within a few hours, this theoratically makes it possible for Renault R.S. 01 Teams to take part in the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI, change the set-up and then race the 24-hour race."

http://www.24hprotoseries.com/series/latest-news/2016-11-12/24h-proto-series-renault-r-s-01-eligible
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« Antwoord #22 Gepost op: December 03, 2016, 11:57:45 »

3x3H DUBAI | The CN-class

Gennep (8 November 2016) - The Hankook 3x3H DUBAI (10-11 january 2017) keep getting closer. A the end of this month, car owners need to wish goodbye to their beauties as they enter the journey by boat towards Dubai. Other, local teams are anticipating the arrival of their opponent's machinery in the United Arab Emirates. Looking at the CN-Class of the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI, an interesting battle between different makes is on the menu in January.

The main nationality amongst the eleven sports production cars is French, amounting to a total of five teams. They are joined by two teams from Italy, two from San Marino, and one each from Spain and Canada.

Ligier JS53 Evo2
The French team IDEC SPORT RACING is joining the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI with their Ligier JS53 Evo2. Known from being a serious contendant in the A6-class championship in the 24H SERIES 2016, the Team is set to compete in both Dubai Events in 2017, joining the Hankook 24H DUBAI with their Mercedes AMG GT3 as well.

Norma M20 FC
The French automobile manufacturer is present with four entries, making the Norma M20 FC line-up an entirely French affair. The cars entered by CD Sport, DB Autosport, and Krafft Racing will make their debut in CREVENTIC races in Dubai, having celebrated several victories in European series in 2016.

Radical SR3
There are two Radical SR3 entred so far in the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI. Both cars are run by San Marino based GDL Racing. The team has been part of the 24H SERIES since many years, celebrating successes in several classes. The Radical SR3 cars of GDL Racing Middle East are known from the Radical Middle East Cup.

Tatuus PY012
The Tatuus PY012 was entered by the Spanish based team AF2 Motorsport. Also joining the race in the P3 class with their Ginetta P3-15, AF2 Motorsport makes chances for two class titles at the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI

Wolf GB08 CN
A total of three Wolf GB08 CN cars joins the provisional CN class field. The factory-supported Avelon Formula Team joins with two cars, joined by one entry of the Canadian Atlantic Racing Team. The Wolf GB08 CN has celebrated numerous victories in several championships.

At this moment, last-minute entries for the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI are still possible at: http://www.24hprotoseries.com/series/registration

Teams looking for drivers can be found at: http://www.24hprotoseries.com/series/driver-and-ride-board

http://www.24hprotoseries.com/series/latest-news/2016-11-08/3x3h-dubai-the-cn-class
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« Antwoord #23 Gepost op: December 03, 2016, 12:01:25 »

3x3H DUBAI | Updated Time Schedule

Gennep (10 November 2016) - The provisional time schedule for the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI (10-11 January 2016) received it latest update. The time schedule promises a lot of track times for the participants of the first ever CREVENTIC prototype race. The pilot race to the 24H PROTO SERIES will be held on the Dubai Autodrome.

Click here to see the full time schedule

The time schedule of the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI promises 13,5 hours of prototype racing, including two hours of Free Practice, one hour of Qualifying, 90 minutes of Night Practice and a total of 9 hours races. The third race will end in darkness.

Sunday, 8 January 2017
13:00 - 18:00:   Unloading the Containers

Monday, 9 January 2017
12:00 - 18:00:   Welcome Centre Open
13:00 - 18:00:   Administrative Checks and Scrutineering
16:00 - 16:30:   Team Managers Briefing
16:30 - 17:00:   Drivers Briefing

Tuesday, 10 January 2017
08:30 - 18:00:   Welcome Centre Open
09:00 - 10:00:   Free Practice 1
10:30 - 11:30:   Free Practice 2
12:00 - 13:00:   Qualifying
14:00 - 17:00:   Race 1
18:00 - 19:00:   Night Practice

Wednesday, 11 January 2017
08:00 - 19:00:   Welcome Centre Open
09:30 - 12:30:   Race 2
15:45 - 18:45:   Race 3

http://www.24hprotoseries.com/series/latest-news/2016-11-10/3x3h-dubai-updated-time-schedule
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« Antwoord #24 Gepost op: December 03, 2016, 12:14:48 »

Graff Racing Enters 24H PROTO SERIES With Ginetta

Front-running prototype team Graff Racing will enter a Ginetta G57-P2 car into the inaugural rounds of the 24H Proto Series, which is set to support the Dubai 24 Hours on 10 – 11 January 2017.
 
As former on-track rivals, Ginetta Managing Director Ewan Baldry and Graff Racing Team Manager Pascal Rauturier have worked closely over the past few months, establishing what will undoubtedly be formidable pairing in 2017.
 
Having expertise which stretches across 32 years and an impressive 29 titles across the globe, Graff Racing is one of the leading lights in international competition. As a name synonymous with top level motorsport, Ginetta is thrilled to welcome the team into the family.
 
Ewan Baldry, Ginetta Managing Director; “We have shared a grid with Graff for a number of years in the V de V Championship, European Le Mans Series and Road to Le Mans, and on every occasion, it’s been very clear to us that Graff Racing is amongst the best teams in prototype competition.
 
The entire outfit is immensely professional and passionate about the racing they do, an approach which sits perfectly with that of Ginetta as we look to increase our presence across Europe. We hope this blossoming relationship is the start of a strong partnership between our two companies.”
 
Pascal Rauturier, Graff Racing Team Manager; “I am very happy to be collaborating with Ginetta. We have the same objectives which are to provide a quality service and a fast car for our drivers of the Ginetta G57-P2 in the fantastic Dubai 24 Hour support series which launches in January.”
 
Ginetta and Graff Racing will announce their complete driver line up at a later date. The 24H Proto Series 2017 gets underway with the triple header of three hour races supporting the Dubai 24 Hours. Further 12 Hour prototype race(s) in Europe are due for announcement by Creventic in the near future.
 
http://www.24hprotoseries.com/series/latest-news/2016-11-23/graff-racing-enters-24h-proto-series-with-ginetta
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« Antwoord #25 Gepost op: December 03, 2016, 12:16:29 »

Meeting between CREVENTIC and ACO

After receiving many enquiries by our customers regarding the current status of negotiations between CREVENTIC and the ACO, we are happy to confirm that a meeting has been scheduled betweeen the two parties. During this meeting, the P3 class of the 24H PROTO SERIES powered by Hankook will be discussed. We are positive about this meeting and regard it as a good signal for the future.

In 2017, the series will consist of 3-4 12H races. The first race will take place in Magny-Cours on 22-23 April 2017. The remaining rounds will be announced very soon. CREVENTIC is currently negotiating with attractive circuits in Spain, Italy, Belgium and France and is positive of being able to present an exciting and attractive calendar within short notice.

Stay tuned for further informations on www.24hprotoseries.com

http://www.24hprotoseries.com/series/latest-news/2016-11-25/meeting-between-creventic-and-aco
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« Antwoord #26 Gepost op: December 03, 2016, 12:21:55 »

Gearing up for a new adventure - 4 rounds in 2017

Gearing up for a new adventure: 24H PROTO SERIES powered by Hankook with four rounds in 2017

GENNEP (December 2, 2016) – GTs, touring cars, 24h specials, protoypes: if they can be raced, Dutch agency CREVENTIC will create a series of endurance races for them. Following the initial announcement in September, CREVENTIC can now present the calendar of the 2017 24H PROTO SERIES powered by Hankook. The latest addition to the portfolio of race series, the 24H PROTO SERIES powered by Hankook will include four twelve-hour races in 2017. The season gets underway at the Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours in France on April 21-22. Next up is the Hankook 12H MISANO in Italy from July 7-9, followed by the Hankook 12H PAUL RICARD, again in France, from August 18-19. The legendary circuit of Spa-Francorchamps in the Belgian Ardennes will host the season finale from October 6-8. On top of that, prototypes will already be on track at Dubai Autodrome for the 3x3H DUBAI on January 10-11, an official support event of the Hankook 24H DUBAI.

Make your registration for the Hankook 24H PROTO SERIES 2017 now

“We are delighted with the way the preparations for next year are going,” CREVENTIC’s Ole Dörlemann says. “Hankook has agreed to become our exclusive tyre supplier and title sponsor and we have a very interesting calendar with great venues. With our 24H PROTO SERIES, we particularly aim at amateur drivers, providing them with a lot of track time at challenging race circuits at affordable costs. Like this, we enable them to experience the real world of endurance racing as our prototype races are the longest races currently available for this type of cars. With immediate effect, teams can sign up for the full season on our website www.24hprotoseries.com.”
 
With races at Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours, Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli, Circuit Paul Ricard and Circuit Spa-Francorchamps, the 24H PROTO SERIES powered by Hankook is visiting some prestigious venues, three of them being current or former Formula 1 circuits (and soon-to-be Formula 1 circuit again, following the announcement that Paul Ricard will be hosting the French Grand Prix in 2018). Misano is best-known for its MotoGP round, but is also perfectly suited for car racing.
 
Participation in the races of the 24H PROTO SERIES is possible for a wide variety of prototype race cars with many different classes. The P3 class is open for the ADESS 03, Ginetta P3-15, Ligier JS P3, Norma M30 and Riley-Ave P3 (5000 cc). The G57 class is a special category for the Ginetta G57. Class SPX is designated for special prototypes that will be admitted on an individual basis, and the Class CN Production Sports Cars is for Group CN cars with aspirated engines up to 2000 cc or 1620 cc turbocharged engines.
 
Prior to the start of its inaugural 24H PROTO SERIES powered by Hankook season, CREVENTIC is already organising a prototype event at Dubai Autodrome, the Hankook 3x3H DUBAI. Currently, the provisional entry list for the race already shows 20 cars from various renowned teams. The following prototypes are expected to be on the grid: Ligier JS P3, Ginetta G57, Renault R.S. 01, Ligier JS 53 Evo2, Wolf GB08 CN, Radical SR3 RSX and Norma M20 FC. The Hankook 3x3H DUBAI will be a triple-header of three-hour races, preceded by two free practice sessions and qualifying. The first race will be held on Tuesday, January 10, from 14.00 till 17.00 hrs, followed by one hour of night practice. The other two races will take place on Wednesday, January 11, from 9.30 till 12.30 and from 15.45 till 18.45 hrs. Further information about the 24H PROTO SERIES can be found at www.24hprotoseries.com.

http://www.24hprotoseries.com/series/latest-news/2016-12-02/gearing-up-for-a-new-adventure-4-rounds-in-2017
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« Antwoord #27 Gepost op: December 04, 2016, 12:38:20 »

ace1, ik weet niet wat de moderatoren erover te zeggen hebben, als ze er al iets over te zeggen hebben, maar ik persoonlijk zou graag minder gecopy-paste zien van jou. Vertel waar het verhaal over gaat, link ernaar en zeg wat je ervan vindt. Deze muren van tekst zonder onderscheid met wat jouw eigen bijdrages zijn bevorderen de discussies bepaald niet.
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« Antwoord #28 Gepost op: December 04, 2016, 11:50:49 »

ace1, ik weet niet wat de moderatoren erover te zeggen hebben, als ze er al iets over te zeggen hebben, maar ik persoonlijk zou graag minder gecopy-paste zien van jou. Vertel waar het verhaal over gaat, link ernaar en zeg wat je ervan vindt. Deze muren van tekst zonder onderscheid met wat jouw eigen bijdrages zijn bevorderen de discussies bepaald niet.

Ik ben op meerdere fora actief en daar wordt het door andere gebruikers ook gedaan, blijkbaar heb jij geen ervaring met een forum? En ik ben de enige die dit forum levend houdt, de overige leden doen dat namelijk allang niet meer. En de meeste moderatoren hebben er een hekel aan als je alleen maar een linkje plaatst. En ben je er niet mee eens jammer dan.
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« Antwoord #29 Gepost op: December 04, 2016, 07:23:44 »

Ik ben op meerdere fora actief en daar wordt het door andere gebruikers ook gedaan,
Da's mooi. Neemt niet weg dat het mij ontzettend stoort en dat ik denk dat het beter kan.

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blijkbaar heb jij geen ervaring met een forum?
Ik heb meer ervaring met dit forum dan jij, zoveel is zeker.

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En ik ben de enige die dit forum levend houdt,
Ik tel het spammen van volledige teksten van artikelen die elders ook gelezen kunnen worden niet tot het levend houden van het forum. Bijdragen van anderen in de laatste maanden komen bij mij levendiger over. Met name de TCR Benelux 2017 thread is een goed voorbeeld. Hier werd hevig gediscussieerd tussen leden die zich al een tijd niet hebben laten horen. Dat, niet ellenlange artikelen zonder eigenlijke discussie, is wat een forum zo mooi maakt.

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de overige leden doen dat namelijk allang niet meer.
Ga nou niet overal de eer voor opstrijken. En welke eer sowieso? Geen discussie te bekennen hier. Enige wat voor discussie probeert door te gaan is een korte ruzie over wat wel en niet hoogwaardige techniek is, niet bepaald hoogwaardige discussie als je het mij vraagt.

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En de meeste moderatoren hebben er een hekel aan als je alleen maar een linkje plaatst.
Maar goed, dat stel ik ook helemaal niet voor. Herinner je je dit nog?
Vertel waar het verhaal over gaat, link ernaar en zeg wat je ervan vindt.
Als je die instructies nou opvolgt dan ben ik blij en kun jij nieuws brengen over wat jij interessant vindt. Hier heb je een voorbeeld van goed gedrag, genomen van een ander forum:
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http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...c-tcr-germany/
Luca Engstler will drive Golf in 2017 TCR Germany

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En ben je er niet mee eens jammer dan.
Och wat ben je toch volwassen.

Ik zie dat je het persoonlijk opvat, maar het is zeker niet zo bedoeld. Dit gaat niet om jij tegen ik, dit gaat alleen over hoe je te gedragen op dit forum. Ik hoop dat je in staat bent om je eigen gedrag te beoordelen en verbeteren. Mocht deze discussie toch uitlopen op nodeloze ruzie, dan zal ik deze verlaten en jou overlaten aan de moderatoren.
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