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Titel: Red Bull wil onafhankelijke motor leveranciers
Bericht door: ace1 op Mei 27, 2017, 08:34:01
Marko: Change the engine rules or Red Bull will quit!

Red Bull motorsport boss Helmut Marko has vented another threat to quit Formula 1 if future engine regulation changes don't improve.

F1 sporting manager Ross Brawn is hard at working defining the sport's future technology path beyond 2020 when the currents set of rules expire.

But Red Bull is putting several conditions on the table, and if they are not enforced, the energy drinks company could leave Formula 1 altogether.

"The idea is very simple. We want an engine that is 1000hp, with a single standard KERS and battery, and development does not cost more than 15-20 million," Marko told El Confidencial.

"They should have sound, and allow the driver to make the difference. And independent companies like Ilmor and Cosworth should be able to enter so that we or McLaren can use them if we want," he said.


http://en.f1i.com/news/268540-marko-change-engine-rules-red-bull-will-quit.html


Titel: Re: Red Bull wil onafhankelijke motor leveranciers
Bericht door: ace1 op Mei 27, 2017, 08:36:05
Red Bull 'eist' onafhankelijke F1-motor

Een motor van een fabrikant zonder Formule 1-fabrieksteam is essentieel voor het voortbestaan van de raceklasse, meent Christian Horner.

"Na 2020 moeten we gewoon een onafhankelijke motor hebben waarmee teams kunnen winnen. Daar moeten snel regels voor komen", aldus Horner tegenover internationale media.

"De motor is nu het belangrijkste element waar de commerciële eigenaar van de Formule 1 (Liberty Media, red.) op gericht is, omdat het de kosten, prestaties van en verschillen tussen de teams bepaalt. Kijk maar naar Fernando Alonso en McLaren. Bovendien moeten de motoren luider zijn voor de show en de fans."

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/28233606/__Red_Bull__eist__onafhankelijke_F1-motor__.html


Titel: Re: Red Bull wil onafhankelijke motor leveranciers
Bericht door: ace1 op Mei 27, 2017, 08:57:54
Cosworth heeft al een 1.6 turbo gebouwd en op de plank liggen maar destijds wilde niemand er mee rijden.

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/cosworth-developing-2014-power-unit/

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/cosworth-reveals-2014-f1-power-unit/

http://gas2.org/2014/09/29/cosworth-may-return-formula-one/

https://www.thisisf1.com/2015/10/12/will-cosworth-engine-return-to-f1-with-red-bull/

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/cosworth-linked-with-dual-engine-f1-solution/

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12028/10045411/a



Titel: Re: Red Bull wil onafhankelijke motor leveranciers
Bericht door: ace1 op Juni 01, 2017, 11:04:37
Red Bull fordert neue Motorenregeln: "Sonst steigen wir aus"

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news/2017/05/red-bull-fordert-neue-motorenregeln-sonst-steigen-wir-aus-17053008.html#polla


Titel: Re: Red Bull wil onafhankelijke motor leveranciers
Bericht door: ace1 op Juni 05, 2017, 12:41:55
GEHEIMTREFFEN!

Formel 1 pokert um die neuen Motoren

Wie BILD am SONNTAG erfuhr, besuchte Red-Bull-Besitzer Dietrich Mateschitz vor dieser Saison den neuen Formel-1-Besitzer John Malone. In einem Vier-Augen-Gespräch waren sich die beiden Chefs einig: Die Formel 1 muss wieder näher an den Fan.

http://www.bild.de/sport/motorsport/formel-1/pokert-um-die-neuen-motoren-52036228.bild.html


Titel: Re: Red Bull wil onafhankelijke motor leveranciers
Bericht door: ace1 op Juni 07, 2017, 05:28:39
Red Bull 'need own engine to be F1 force again', says ex-Cosworth chief

Speaking on this week's F1 Report, ex-Cosworth boss Mark Gallagher thinks that Red Bull need their own independent engine supplier to keep pace with their rivals
Red Bull's Formula 1 hopes are being "hamstrung" by their lack of a works engine deal, according to this week's F1 Report.

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10906043/red-bull-need-own-engine-to-be-f1-force-again-says-ex-cosworth-chief


Titel: Re: Red Bull wil onafhankelijke motor leveranciers
Bericht door: ace1 op Juli 26, 2017, 03:00:41
Ilmor wants partner to work with on 2021 Formula 1 engine project

Illien has attended recent FIA meetings where the future engine format has been discussed. A twin-turbo V6 with KERS is the most favoured option, and further studies have been launched.

"Obviously there is a desire to have the possibility for independent manufacturers to come in," Illien told Autosport.

"That's one reason I'm in the meetings, to see whether it's going the right way for an independent."

He ruled out Ilmor supplying an engine under its own name, saying it would only be viable with a partner.

"Somebody has to fund the initial development costs," he said.

"Customers are probably not the right way to go, that doesn't pay for it. You probably need a manufacturer to support it.


"But if you look at Red Bull they've got TAG, so it doesn't need to be a car manufacturer, it could be anybody."

Illien said engine costs have to come down considerably to encourage new entrants.

"That would be a necessity for independents to have a chance," he said.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130922/ilmor-seeking-partner-for-2021-f1-engine


Titel: Re: Red Bull wil onafhankelijke motor leveranciers
Bericht door: ottomaat op Augustus 11, 2017, 05:33:46
Ik zie er wel wat in. Gelijker speelveld, misschien wordt het nog spannender, en zoals Horner zegt terug naar de F1 zoals hij was. Ben benieuwd wat ze uiteindelijk besluiten.